Showing posts with label Reader Comments. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Reader Comments. Show all posts

Saturday, November 27, 2010

More photos of the Fiat 500 at the 2010 LA Auto Show



Once again, our anonymous reader has treated us to more Fiat images. This time, we have photos of the Fiat 500 at the LA Auto Show. The last photo has a link to a photo album with more pictures to enjoy.

Thanks again for sharing!






















From Fiat 500 at the 2010 LA Auto Show


Photos: Anonymous Reader

Friday, November 26, 2010

The Fiat 500 at the 2010 LA Auto Show: A readers report


We have the good fortune of having a reader write in and report on the LA Auto Show's Fiat display. The reader with the user name of Peterjerome has written in on this blog numerous times and has contributed a lot of thoughtful, interesting comments so I want to thank him for that and also for taking the time to write up this report.


Hi Chris
My wife and I went to LA for opening day of the car show. As you can see from the photos, the FIAT display was very innovative. It was something of a large red and white tube. To enter you passed three 500s; a Pop, Sport, and Lounge. Behind them was a classic 500 that was garnering a fair bit of attention itself.


The three modern cars were the real deal. You could sit in them, open hatches and adjust seats. The new seats seem comfy on first sit. They do fill the snug cabin a bit though. The sun roof that was on the Sport and fixed glass roof on the Lounge went a ways to open up the interior space.


The locals that were at the show were smitten by the 500. They were impressed with the comfort and safety equipment, and the warranty went a long way to calm their concerns with reliability. Like me, they kept stepping back and looking at the shape of the car.


Most of the interest seemed to come from the 40 to 50 something crowd. Every conversation I struck up got around to the subject of what value these cars represent compared to the MINI. In Canada, the starting prices differ by seven thousand dollars. Most observers preferred the interior of the 500 to that of the MINI as well.


The Sport model on show was red. The wheel /tire combination adds to a very attractive package. Supposedly the Sport has a modified suspension. I think the other models are softened a bit for North America and the Sport sports the European stock settings. It would be the one for me if the Abarth wasn't coming. The body colours and interior materials display that will be in the dealers is awesome.


If there were any disappointments it was that the display was somewhat hidden in the large hall. Also, the woman giving the monologue was really having a hard time with it. This was annoying considering the amount of information that people need to learn about this car. My wife said that I could have done a better job. I reminded her that FIAT is from Italy where sex still sells. She agreed that the white dress was getting more attention than the flaws in her speech.

In a nutshell, the 500 is worth the wait. When you see it live you will know what I mean.
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Thanks again Peterjerome for sending us that!
Chris

Sunday, November 21, 2010

Photos from the Fiat 500 Preview Event


One of my readers, with the user name of Sam500, was kind enough to send me photos from the Fiat 500 Preview Event the other day and I wanted to share them with everyone. He says: "...The event was amazing, with a very enthusiastic crowd!"



You can view the photos here.

Sam500 is very active in the car-evolutioncars forum here on this blog, and I would like to thank him for his contributions there and for these photos.

Thanks Sam,
Chris


Images:Sam500

Thursday, November 18, 2010

Fiat 500 Preview Event: A Reader's Perspective



A fan of my site has sent me a note with his impressions of the Fiat 500 Preview Event held Tuesday night, November 16, 2010. I was so impressed with his report, I asked if I could publish it. Along with his candid comments, he has taken 100 pictures of the event and has generously allowed me to share them with you. He has requested to remain anonymous, but we all owe him our thanks:

Chris,

First off, thanks for the great site. I check in almost daily for all the latest news on all things Fiat 500 related. Your tireless efforts are much appreciated by all of us who are starved for info.



I live in Orange County, about 40 minutes south of L.A., and drove up tonight for the party. I am a FLU member and have a reservation for the Prima Edizione, car #**, and thus got an invite to attend tonight's event. I was hoping to get some definitive info about the Prima tonight but unfortunately came away not knowing much more than before (more on that later).



I have owned a MINI Cooper S (2002) and currently own a John Cooper Works GP (2006) (in addition to a 2005 Boxster S). I'm a die-hard MINI fan and have visited the factory in Oxford. Because the 500 will obviously be competing head to head with MINI for sales, I was very anxious to evaluate the Fiat and compare it to MINI at least with respect to fit and finish.



I couldn't get a straight answer whether the cars at the preview were U.S. spec. I was told that the cars had certain features and options which may or may not be offered on the U.S. cars. The door jam contained no manufacturer info as is customary so I could not tell where these cars were built or when. So the comments which follow may pertain to features or qualities that won't apply to U.S. cars. (These appear to be pre-production models-Chris)



I took 100 photos which can be found here .

The lighting was less than ideal and I am hopeless as a photographer so apologies in advance for the mediocre (at best) shots.
(These are some great shots-Chris)


I snapped pics of the dealership, the car color sample, the various wheel options, and of course the cars.





The colors that will be available are as follows:

Rame (an orangish/bronze color)
Bianco (bright white)
Rosso (red)
Giallo (yellow)
Bianco Perla (pearlescent white)
Nero (black)
Azzurro (blue)
Grigio (dark grey)
Mocha Latte (light chocolate)
Verde Chiaro (sage green)
Argento (silver)
Verde Oliva (dark green/olive)
Expresso (dark chocolate)
Rosso Brillante (more of a maroon red)



They had cars representing all three trim lines - Pop, Sport and Lounge. In the photos you can see the variations between these three lines with respect to wheels, chrome accents, door inserts, front and rear grill/facia, seats, etc.



(This report was sent immediately after the event and the day before the official announcement, so pricing and equipment content was not released yet-Chris)


Regarding the Prima, I was able to speak to a high level Fiat rep. I posed the following questions regarding the Prima:

1. What is the price?

She couldn't say. She did indicate that tomorrow after the unveiling, all Prima owners would be sent an email with additional info about the Prima. She said the email had already been drafted and was ready to be sent but not until the official unveiling. So Prima owners should definitely check their email tomorrow for what hopefully will be some detailed and specific info regarding the car. She also said an ad would be appearing in tomorrow's USA Today listing all the U.S. Fiat dealers.



2. To what extent can we option the car other than what has already been indicated (e.g., sunroof)?

She didn't know.





3. What color interior will each of the three colored cars come with? If you ordered white, could you get a red interior?

She didn't know.




4. Will Prima owners have to sign a contract in December as originally indicated?

She said the cars will not be here until after the start of the year so she didn't think a contract commitment would be required prior to the end of the year. When I told her I would be hesitant to sign a contract without first having a chance to drive the car, she totally sympathized and thought that dealers would probably be willing to work with customers and not bind them to anything until they had a chance to see the car and drive it. She said that Fiat wanted to make sure that Prima owners were serious about purchasing as opposed to looking to "flip" the cars for a profit.





5. Will Prima owners have a chance to drive a car before having to commit to a contract?

See above.


6. Will the Prima be on display at the LA Auto Show?

It's not clear but there is a chance a Prima will be displayed.




Miscellaneous Observations:

The round headrests are a hard plastic. I could never tell from pictures if they are padded but they aren't.

The fit and finish on all the cars appeared very high. Definitely up to MINI standards.



The seats in the Sport model were excellent. High grade cloth with vertical panel inserts in the seat and seat backs. The full leather seats in the Lounge were very plush and luxurious and felt very similar to the full leather seats found in the MINI (the leather seats even resemble the leather seats in the MINI). There is great fore/aft adjustment on the seats which can also be lowered and raised. I'm 6'0" tall and had plenty of legroom and headroom.



The telescopic steering wheel has considerable range of motion up and down.

The turn signal and wiper stalks felt a bit chintzy but otherwise the plastics throughout the cabin appeared and felt high grade.



The cabin is definitely smaller than the MINI's but didn't feel claustrophobic by any stretch.

Woe unto those relegated to the back seats!

The engine compartment is extremely tiny but tidy. Very short distance between the base of the windshield and the front of the car which makes for a very small hood.



One of the windshield wipers has a long elbow shape which is sort of strange.

The glass sunroof tilts up or lifts up and moves back over the roof. Inside, there is a mesh screen you can pull across the sunroof opening to reduce sun from beating in, very similar to the MINI's shade.

The stick shift feels great. Not a short snickety throw though. I would say a normal throw very similar to the MINI.



The steering wheel was thick and felt substantial. Great wheel.



The rear trunk lid release is nice but once the hatch is up there is only a small strap to pull the rear hatch back down. An indent on the inside of the trunk lid which you could grasp to pull the hatch down would have been preferable.

The doors closed with a great thud. Felt very good.

Getting in and out is very easy.

No literature was available except for a small flip booklet which shows the three cars in the various colors offered. No specs listed.

There are red brake calipers on the sport model.




The Bose stereo system has round tweeters up near both A-pillars and what is probably a bass speaker in the rear cargo area.

All cars I believe had a rear window wiper which may or may not be standard.
(it is standard-Chris)



That's all I can think of. I came away very impressed but I'm frankly struggling with the Prima decision because the Abarth is, in many ways, a more appealing package IMO that will be here in the not-too-distant future. Perhaps as more info becomes available on the Prima (hopefully tomorrow) it will help me make up my mind.

Continued success with the site!

Ciao,

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Source: With thanks to a fan of this site

Sunday, November 14, 2010

A Special Time To Be A Fiat Aficionado...


I received this comment the other day:

Anonymous said...

I drive past the venue on my way to work everyday.
It is a new building with a tower on the back with big TV screens on it facing the 110 freeway south of I-10. It is a lot like the round silo with TV screens they built recently on the Nokia center on the same highway but on the other side of I-10.

The screens were lit for the first time last night and on it was the Fiat logo for the city to see.

Anonymous, thanks for your post. All I can say is, this is a special time for us Fiat enthusiasts.

Chris

Saturday, September 18, 2010

The truth about the "truth"




A reader of this blog left the following post and asked me to comment on it:

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Fiat 500 Blackjack special edition":

Hello, I noticed on another blog, the truth about cars, that the interior shot posted above is from the Mexican built 500 for the American market. Notice the HVAC manual controls. Just wondering. Maybe you could comment on this:

Click to see The Truth About Cars


My comment is that this IS NOT a US Fiat 500. It is a photo of a European car with optional equipment (someone please tell TTAC it is possible to configure a European Fiat 500 in 500,000 different option combinations). By the way, this picture has been on Chrysler's site for many months. The grey car is equipped with manual climate control, Frua leather interior, the Sports styled instrument panel and the Blue&Me hands free system.



This is also a European Fiat 500 interior, It is equipped with automatic climate control, Hi-Fi 'Interscope Sound System', Blue&Me hands free system, comfort instrument panel and cloth interior.


European Fiat 500 with manual climate air conditioning



European Fiat 500 with automatic climate control


European Fiat 500 has two different instrument panel options


Thank you to anonymous (whoever you are) for posting that comment. Hope that clears things up.

Best regards, Chris


Photos courtesy of Fiat Group Press/Chrysler Media

Wednesday, August 18, 2010

Will someone 6 feet 2 inches fit into a Fiat 500 (?) and other questions...


The other day I received a comment from a reader of this blog who has a few good questions. I thought I would share them with you.

My thanks to Michael M for checking out my blog and for taking the time to post a comment.


Hello Chris, three questions 1) When will the cars arrive in the Northern California Area and is there a place I could see one now?

Fiat North America has been showing up at various auto shows with the European Fiat 500. Recently it was at the Concorso Italiano auto show in Monterey, California. Keep an eye on this blog for when it will show up next.

Great news is folks on the west coast will be lucky this Fall as the North American version of the Fiat 500 will make its debut at the LA Auto Show, November 19-28. Don't miss this!



2) How supportive will the dealerships be for the 500?

The Fiat 500 will be marketed through select Chrysler dealers. Only the best dealers will be able to get the Fiat Franchise. The requirements are very stringent including a separate, dedicated staff. You can read more about Fiat dealers here.

After talking with the head of Fiat North America, Laura Soave, I can tell you she (and everyone I met from Chrysler) is absolutely committed to Fiat's success in this country. Soave has a strong background in customer service that will serve us well here.

With Fiat's help, Chrysler has refocused on customer service. An example is Chrysler is the first in the industry to introduce free, downloadable vehicle owner-information apps for smartphones. Besides an owner's manual, this app features includes product literature, detailed feature descriptions, photos, videos, frequently asked questions, and the ability to set up service appointments and purchase parts. Read more about this mobile app
here.



Our driver, who is just about 6'2", with the seat all the way back. Actually leaning forward with lots of room



3) I'm six foot 2+inches and 205 lbs and 67 yrs old I am wondering if I am going to be able to get in and out of one of these cars with ease. The Abarth knocks my sox off, I'd love to have one of those. I'm driving an 05 Subaru legacy wagon that is a rocket (I love it and it will pass anything on the road except a gas station) Thanks Michael M Oakland CA

Our driver at his normal seating position



The Fiat 500 was developed to fit large people. Here's a picture of a big guy (just about 6'2") sitting in the car. He drives this car regularly and has no problem fitting in.


Check out this road test on the English show "Top Gear". Jeremy Clarkson is 6'6" and has no problem fitting in.

A driver who is approx 6'2.5" getting into the front seat of the Fiat 500. Notice how his back can remain upright, without stooping



You can read more about the Fiat 500's interior accommodations and watch a neat video here.

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Michael, hope this helps.

Thanks again and best regards, Chris



With thanks to Chrysler Media, Fiat Group Press and
our accommodating driver, Jason.